TheBrothersWISP Podcast 8 – Andrew Thrift, MPLS, MTK Newsletter 41

This go around we have Greg, Andrew Cox, JJ Boyd, and surprise guest Andrew Thrift.

Thrift is our pal from New Zealand. He is a network engineer with a wide range of experiences, though we only really grilled him about his MPLS experience with Mikrotik and about where he buys his hair products. BTW when Andrew talks about carting he is talking about racing go-carts!

We talk about:
– My initial thoughts on MTK MPLS
– We also speak about VPLS a layer 2 tunneling option.
Hardware in the MTK 41 newsletter: RB2011UAS-2HnD, RB44Ge, and RB2011L-RM. My thoughts.
Aircontrol2 beta video.
Aircontrol2 wiki.
Speculation on Dude V2.
JJ talks about tower Ice Bridges.
JJ also shares with us his love for the beaglebone.

Here’s the video:(if you don’t see it, hit refresh)


15 responses to “TheBrothersWISP Podcast 8 – Andrew Thrift, MPLS, MTK Newsletter 41”

  1. Sam Anderson Avatar
    Sam Anderson

    Replaced Justin?!?! Say it aint so?!?!? πŸ™ sad

    1. greg Avatar

      Nah, Justin was just too good for us last night…hehe. We couldn’t get hold of him, so we called in a stunt double.

  2. Wayne Hancock Avatar
    Wayne Hancock

    Love the show guys!

    I check daily to see if there is new content!

    1. greg Avatar


      If you use an RSS reader, you could just subscribe πŸ™‚

  3. Wayne Hancock Avatar
    Wayne Hancock

    Now, I just need to find out how to get into the beta for AirControl2!

  4. Hey Greg, any chance you would share your Mikrotik template for Cacti? I have been trying to graph just the things you mentioned on the podcast but keep hitting snags. Thanks for a great podcast!

    1. greg Avatar

      I’ve been using the same one for ages…I believe it is this one

  5. edward Avatar

    Curious, what SFP transceiver do you prefer to use with that Mikrotik 2011? These vary in price quite a bit, often more than the entire cost of the router.

    Also, an ongoing question I have (as a startup WISP) is do (or SHOULD I) set up a public IP for all of my subscribers? Currently, I am NATing everyone and they all roll up to a public IP that is closest to the internet POP. Is this a bad idea? I got an inquiry from someone on setting up port forwarding so they can map a custom port to their own internal service. I’d need to assign them a dedicated public IP, which doesn’t seem to work with my NAT model. What’s the best practice for WISPs, especially when you are a small startup, like me?

    1. greg Avatar


      I’m using generic Cisco compatible SFPs with good success. I can usually get these between $20-30 USD.

      The best way to start is generally to NAT everyone to a single IP. If you have a business customer, do a 1 to 1 NAT at your border of a public IP to their specific private. This should be the cheapest and easiest option for you to start on.

      1. edward Avatar

        Thanks for the info!

        Ya’ll need to set up a forum – like UBNT, but vendor agnostic and more expansive – the combined skills you guys have here will be a great foundation/seed to spool up. Your videos will drive a lot more visitors.

        1. greg Avatar

          Sounds like a good idea, but I’m not sure we would really have time to keep up with it πŸ™‚ I would be afraid questions would get missed.

          The other guys might have a different opinion…in which case I’m all ears.

          1. edward Avatar

            If you continue to attract more experts, it becomes a self-servicing community with less involvement of every forum, and do the highlighted posts (videos, etc, like you do now) to continue to draw people in. You guys would be the forum founders/leaders.

            Your consulting businesses would probably go through the roof.

            Couple questions:
            1) You mentioned in one of your videos a web site you like where you can get used Cisco gear cheap. Can you remind me where that is?

            2) Someone mentioned the idea of having pre-terminated fiber runs for tower installs. Any sources on where to order that? I’m assuming this means putting SFP terminators on two ends of a 300 foot (or whatever the tower height dictates) fiber, yes? I need this for an install on a high-RF tower (5 x 100kw stations within 50m).

            3) Blue Suits (RF suits) – where is a good source for these? I found some, but I’d love a referral.

          2. greg Avatar


            Consulting is less important to me now than community support and putting decent content out πŸ™‚

            3. have to ask JJ or Justin πŸ™‚

  6. computercolin Avatar

    Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa. Ether11 and 12 renumbering themselves on RB1100s?!? Does it affect the RB1100AHx2s? Can someone confirm this? Ports 11 and 12 are great for routing because they aren’t part of switch groups! Has this been resolved in 5.19? 5.20? We were hoping to standardize our network on 5.20 since that version includes the PoE firmware update for the 750UPs.

  7. lorsungcu Avatar

    love this cast, have not found anything like this yet. really nice. can you explain the benefit of using MPLS on a point to point link? seems like it makes more sense on routes that might have more than a single endpoint?

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